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Aeon Timaeus Crux's avatar

Look, both sides are doing the same thing and can't see it.

Analytics take logic out of actual reasoning contexts, treat it like some external standard, then demand everything conform to it. Continentals take "historical context" or "critique" and do the exact same move: place it outside what they're analyzing, then use it to explain everything else.

The Sokal hoax showed continental philosophy can't tell nonsense from insight when it loses touch with reality. But analytics does this too, just with papers so technical nobody can tell if they mean anything anymore.

When someone says analytics is "obviously better" because it's clear and logical, they're right that clarity matters. But they're missing that being super precise about the wrong question isn't actually better. When continentals say their job is to "problematize" things, they're right that questioning frameworks matters. But they use this as an excuse to never actually test whether their reframings are accurate.

Here's what I think is happening: Western philosophy has been doing the same basic move for 2500 years: taking something that only makes sense in relation to other things, pretending it stands alone, then building systems around that pretense.

The analytic-continental split is just that move arguing with itself. Each side is trying to fix what the other one externalizes, but neither sees they're both doing it.

It's not about picking a side or combining them. Once you see the pattern, the whole debate starts looking weird... like watching someone's left hand argue with their right hand about the correct way to clap.

The real question isn't "who's right?" It's "why do both traditions assume you have to separate things (logic from context, form from meaning, precision from relevance) in the first place?"

That assumption is the problem. And neither side can see it because they're both standing on it.

Enjoyed reading this essay.

MJR Schneider's avatar

As a fan of 19th and early 20th century German philosophy in a thoroughly analytic philosophy department, I both understand why the divide exists and have some hope that it is slowly being overcome. I often feel conflicted when I see analytic critiques of continentals because I too dislike most (but not all) late 20th century “continental” philosophy, particularly post-structuralism. But those same critiques are then often applied in a very blanket and in my view childish way to other philosophers, like Hegel, to whom they do not really apply.

So it’s refreshing to see someone who has very clearly put in the work to understand “continental” thinkers and evaluate them on their merits, even if you are ultimately more dismissive of them than I would be. I don’t think the divide will go away as long as continentals refuse to adopt analytic standards of rigour, but I do expect that analytic philosophy will eventually absorb most of the continental ideas that have value and I think the most interesting work being done today comes from efforts to do so.

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